View Full Version : Toyota Hilux Surf, Jap.
This car was left down the workshop by a friend, I think it probably still has mot on it, I will find out. The head is not worth saving and to be honest needs another engine. Really have not had the time to find one so if you are interested at a good price contact us and make an offer. It's got to go as been sitting far too long and taking up room. Hence why we won't break it as too much time and effort.
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macca
02-24-2009, 12:02 PM
I really want this but can't justify the money on it or the space for it :(
Lots of people love them but its an all too common fault, apparantly run out of mot now (just checked). Quite happy to help someone sort it out or deliver it etc would seem a shame to break.
If anyone knows of a reasonable td engine going for it do let us know as got to do something with it.
macca
02-24-2009, 12:48 PM
Find a smashed Supra, the 2JZ fits in with not too much effort apparently!
The 2.4TD is a terrible engine. In N/A form it was fine and also the 3.0TD engine that put in them is a very good engine too. The 2.4TD always blows head gaskets and more often than not cracks the head too.
Thanks for that Macca, will pass that on to James, he did warn the guy not to buy that car as it sounded awful from day one, as said before people don't listen.
:wink:
macca
02-24-2009, 01:06 PM
If you look around, there's usually a big gap between the prices of the 2.4TD and 3.0TD because of the extra worry and cost of the former going wrong all the time.
Shame it's not a manual as it'd be worth a lot more! Though the Recaro interior is quite sought after for it.
Well I am liking the idea of the supra, rules out the crap engines and I am sure it will sell as an auto although most people don't see the value of autos. Thanks, given a few things to look up now.
macca
02-24-2009, 06:43 PM
I'm not sure what's happened with the conversions, but I doubt you'd be able to keep the stock auto box and unlikely to be able to keep the 4wd.. I could be wrong though!
Not sure at all, James said though that those Supra engines are also known for the head gaskets going :rolleyes:
I am watching a couple of autos on ebay, exactly the same to see if its worth doing, I do think with the hassle it may well go as it is. Got far too much to do
the exa, manta, lude and its steering and the mx5 turbo to sort
and that's apart from all the other jobs that keep coming and the 2 spitfires and that clio........... oh and the opel manta berlinetta that we got the other week.
Oh well we'll see seems such a shame.
macca
02-24-2009, 08:21 PM
What a 2JZ?? That's the engine in my car, never heard of a popped head gasket. James might be thinking of the 7M-GE and 7M-GTE in the mk3 UK supras, they also did have head gasket troubles. They were due to poor factory torque settings as opposed to bad design.
Do you think the Surf will need a lot of work for an MOT?
I doubt the surf needs much for mot, it had mot but has been sitting due to the headgasket, it had been looked after other than that.
You most probably are right, I can't remember if I did say engine number to him so I think he was just being wide thinking in general on supra engines. Just happened to mention it, he's got lots going on as I mentioned so probably went in one ear and out the other ;)
It is also assumed that the head may be cracked it might not be. Just not got the time to check it over, James always thought the engine in that car was not a brilliant one. Still keeping my eyes open, it would be much easier to do an engine transfer.
I am sure if anyone is interested I can get James to do a quick check over and see what it may need for an mot.
Looking into a bit further, seen a few engines from £150 - £700 on average but they are sure to have the same problem. It seems that those that were recalled had the 2.8 head used instead. Other option is possible lexus engine? Been told its solid underneath, the head could be replaced but it would be a good idea to check over the engine more thoroughly.
macca
02-25-2009, 10:10 PM
I've wanted one of these for so long, but the 2.4 engine puts me off massively even if it was sorted. Just kind of a time bomb really isn't it.
What lexus engine were you thinking? They're all just Toyota engines with a different badge on top anyway..
Yeah that's what we are thinking, it's pointless putting a 2.4 engine into it but a possibility with the 2.8 head on it. Heard good things about that, that's what toyota did to rectify the problem with many.
James was thinking of a lexus V6 engine, he said he thought that would be a really easy job to fit in, simple enough. Been looking. Not going to scrap a car or break it when it could get on the road.
Either we sell it as it is or find some sort of engine. Seen a 3.5L v8 engine put in them as well. Not ruled out that Supra engine but its a question of end value of the car v what engine goes in.
macca
02-26-2009, 11:54 AM
Yes there have been a lot of Hilux V8 conversions with Rover or Chevy engines. One of the Hilux specialist does a kit too. Would be nice on carbs, save all the rubbish with the engine and the ECU etc.
If you go the Toyota V6 (3.0litre used in the petrol Surf's and 4-runner and the Camry) then you have to worry about the ECU and harness for the engine.
I'm so tempted with this, I'd love to get rid of the Mondeo as it's nothing but trouble but could do without getting another gas guzzler. Even in diesel form these things aren't very economic. Also got nowhere to put it until I can fix it up either. Have to be good! :(
macca
02-26-2009, 12:00 PM
Don't want to swap for a pair of Pug 405's do you? :innocent: lol..
Don't want to swap for a pair of Pug 405's do you? :innocent: lol..
:p Well I would say no but can ask about, you never know, if someone took them off us then you never know................. send me the details and photos as my memory is shot and will see. Even if you are not interested may know someone who is. Not that I am tempting you here.
Got a peugeot 306 1.9 td, t reg, silver in nice condition for £200, James fixed it up, thought we'd keep it. Well think its that model, me and no knowledge of Pugs. Looks rather tidy.
V8 engines, lots for sale for good prices at the moment.
jimbo
03-23-2009, 11:22 PM
Could a 4.0 V6 from a jeep fit in after a bit of bastardising?
macca
03-23-2009, 11:41 PM
No reason it wouldn't, you'd obviously have to make some mounts and either a bellhousing adaptor or stick in a different gearbox and have it just rear wheel drive.
jimbo
03-24-2009, 12:16 PM
The mounts wouldn't be a problem too much for me, but yes, the gearbox was something I'd not like to tackle. Permanent 4WD is much more preferable, but less practical.
macca
03-24-2009, 12:51 PM
What engine is the Jeep V8 as there are plenty of companies who do different V8 bell housings for the hilux, I had a look in to it when I saw this at Ang's yard.
This car is ripe for a nice conversion, the 2.4TD engines are good for scrap but the car is very nice and even has the Recaro interior!
macca
03-24-2009, 12:52 PM
Oh, and these gen 2 surf's can't be used in permanent 4wd as they don't have a centre diff and will wind the transmission up and break things. You can only use them in 4wd offroad and on slippery surfaces.
What engine is the Jeep V8 as there are plenty of companies who do different V8 bell housings for the hilux, I had a look in to it when I saw this at Ang's yard.
This car is ripe for a nice conversion, the 2.4TD engines are good for scrap but the car is very nice and even has the Recaro interior!
It's such a difficult one, its far too good to scrap but no point in putting the same engine in it. It's finding a reasonable one. James is checking meanwhile at the landrover place in Ditchling to find which is the best gearbox to go on the v8 we came back with the other day (another freebie). He's going to put a v8 in that 200sx as yet again those s13 engines are so weak :rolleyes:
macca
03-24-2009, 07:53 PM
What V8 is it Ang?
Same as in the manta, though carb version, rover 3.5L v8. Been sitting for around 8 years. It is being stripped before use. Can you imagine an s13 with a v8:drool:
macca
03-24-2009, 09:42 PM
You can buy a bellhousing adaptor for the Rover V8 to fit it on to the Surf's box ;)
You can buy a bellhousing adaptor for the Rover V8 to fit it on to the Surf's box ;)
We have 2 v8 engines now so could be rather tempting. I think the s13 will be the first done and then to pester the owner to either sell it to us, sell it privately or do something to get it moving:rolleyes:
Well we have an engine and I am not going to sicken people with the price. Its being done and will be sold. Work to do the engine change started today.
macca
06-07-2009, 07:43 PM
What's going in it Ang?
We had given up on finding an original engine for it but some kind soul found us one and poor old James has been changing it on his own, as you can imagine its a difficult job. The mission is to clear cars.
I should think we will be the idiots who have to mot it and sell it too :rolleyes: and the owner gets a cut. It will go cheaply.
Shame really as that car is gagging for a v8 like the s13 but so little time now but the manta, prelude, gto and exa all need tlc.
Up and running and I hear sounding rather sweet :D
macca
06-13-2009, 02:55 PM
Swap you a Mondeo for it :D
Swap you a Mondeo for it :D
:think: for a moment........... No
:D Not sure what's happening with it now, it's running which is great. The s13 has been sold, lets hope it gets collected.
nunchukhamster
06-14-2009, 09:06 AM
We use to have a 3.0TD import Surf, SSR-X I think. Was great fun, but did drink a lot of fuel. Was always fun watching the look on peoples faces if you let the backend slide a wee-bit on a a roundabout :D
Mrs H wants another off-roader to replace the dog-bus at some point, perhaps I can convince her to go back to one of these.
macca
06-14-2009, 04:04 PM
Hehe.. worth a try. I'm after a newer model and the 3.0 once the Mundano is fixed again, sooner the better really. I'll be getting the 96-97 model as it's a bit nicer and more refined with a better 4wd system and slightly better on the fuel too.
This car now has had a sweet running engine in it for a while now and its got to go by this Friday and has it?! No............. :no: OMG it looks like it will have to be scrapped!! What are people like? Are we really supposed to be put into a corner and find that imaginary place to store it??!! All it needs is mot and tax!?! :rolleyes:
nunchukhamster
08-10-2009, 08:46 AM
You're about 6 months too early for us :( I've promised Mrs H she can have another one, but not until next year.
Unless you only want £10 for it??? :p
My other half says its going for scrap unless he gets £400 quid for the car, that includes a running car, all be it the exhaust needs a little repair and refitting but does have a V5, so I understand. Well by the end of the week will know what's going to happen. That is all agreed with the owner. We can deliver I should think but would need people to look at it before friday, d day!
:not:
macca
08-10-2009, 08:50 PM
If it wasn't a 2.4 I'd be very tempted as I'm looking at them again but I just don't want that engine :(
If it wasn't a 2.4 I'd be very tempted as I'm looking at them again but I just don't want that engine :(
Difficult one but engine and hg is fine and worth way more than £400 even without mot. I think a deal may have been struck with someone but not sure. Hope so, time is short!
macca
08-11-2009, 10:03 PM
Fingers crossed you sort something, be a shame to see it scrapped :(
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